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Lord Mudeki
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Posted - 2016.08.29 22:42:56 -
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Damocles Orindus wrote:Daemun Khanid wrote:Just put links on-grid and get rid of the need to assign boosters and call it good. I have to agree. All this buff timer/range/skill rework stuff is just silliness imo.
No need for new modules, no need to make command processors into rigs, no need for silly ass ammo or scripts. Just give them a 500k/m max range. They try to warp at range to stay safe and a single interceptor ruins their day. Links are vulnerable, job done. This ^^. This entire list of changes is greatly unnecessary and would have been better implemented first by just moving combat boosts to on-grid and keeping mining boosts as is.
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Posted - 2016.08.29 22:47:05 -
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Chris Kelvin wrote:Draconas109 wrote:these boosting changes are flat out ********, on grid mining boosts that require ammunition to run.
Has CCP ever tried to be in a null industrialists boots for a week without their dev tools and see how annoying it is to mine and not get killed? 3 hours a day I can probably get to mine with reds constantly in system and managing barges is hard enough, now we have to baby sit multiple boosters?
No, im being serious, this is a giant middle finger in our faces, and an ammo requirement is the cherry on top of the **** mountain. While I do agree with your post and support it very, very much. The answer (which you already know) is that they (CCP) really don't care about anybody else in this game except the PVP crowd. I'm sorry, it is very frustrating and it's taken me a long time to come to accept but, it is just a fact. I don't say this to convey any disrespect or to give any ammo to the hardcore pvper's, it is just the way it is. The only way to effect any change is for anyone who is not interested in pvp to leave the game but, if that ever happened I'm afraid it would be too late for EVE anyway. So many non-pvper's have already left and I'm not really sure why I'm still here except in the vain, unrealistic hope that someone at CCP will actually listen. However, the second someone like you or I stands up to say something they are immediately drowned out by a wave of pro-pvp comments that are not only designed to make it look like you are a minority but, that you are extremely unintelligent (thus, your opinion is not worthy of consideration) and, it serves to intimidate anyone who might also have the same interests (thus, reducing if not eliminating any supporting opinions). It is sad, I know you enjoy this game as do I but the actions of CCP are slowly, steadily forcing us out of the game. However, good for you and thank you for standing up to say something!!
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Posted - 2016.08.29 23:10:27 -
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Darek Castigatus wrote:Daemun Khanid wrote: It's not a question of being able to fly the ships but even if it were just because you had leadership V that doesn't mean you can fly a command ship. But more importantly someone who trained a skill that required no specific ship or module shouldn't be forced to fly a specific ship/module to get use out of a skill they trained without those restrictions. A person doesn't just train basic leadership skills so they can be a link pilot flying a t3 cruiser they train them so they can command small gangs and fleets and get bonuses no matter what ship they are flying. This change says "well, if you want to get anything out of the skills that you've already devoted time training then you will be a boost ship" or "you can pay us to extract your skills and you can put the sp towards something that you'll actually use."
If you can't figure out the analogy that's your intellectual deficiency and not my fault but I'll break it down for you anyway. Player plays monthly fee which allows them to train a skill. (Consumer buys a guy that drives just fine and runs on gas like any other)
After making your purchase CCP says sorry but that skill doesn't do that any more. (Consumer is told they can't buy gas anymore)
CCP says BUT if you fly fleet boost focused ships and used fleet boost modules you'll still get use of your skills (Car dealer says, you can drive your care on these special roads and it'll work just fine)
CCP says you can always buy extractors from us and redistribute your sp (Car dealer say, you can by this special upgrade and drive wherever you want)
Understand now? They sell you a product, then decide after the fact that the product you paid for is no longer going to perform the task that you intended it for when you paid for it. They then try to upsell you more products just so you can get the same benefit from your purchase that you already paid for. More commonly referred to as a scam.
Honestly it really doesn't effect me that much. I started training my link alt to be ongrid combat links back when the command dessi's were released because their creation was an obvious move in the direction of on grid links. It wasn't a matter of if boosts were going on grid it was just when. I extracted my leadership skills from my main and injected the sp into my combat links alt. So again, I planned ahead and don't really have anything to lose w these changes. That still doesn't make their approach to the skills and potential profit from extractors less shady.
Passive bonuses that apply all the time with no effort involved in applying them are exactly what CCP is trying to get rid of with these changes, its something thats been widely disliked for a long time by both players and devs. Yes that going to change how the skills apply in the game but guess what, you're not entitled to have your skills remain a certain way just because its what they were like when you trained them. Should I complain that theres no longer just one skill for flying Battlecruisers despite it being that way when I trained for them? Should I complain that a lot of my skills have had their prerequisites reduced since I trained them, making them easier to get for others than they were for me? And yes CCP are pushing skill extractors as a solution. Why? because thats what they were designed to do, to allow people to take skill points they either no longer want or no longer use and put them somewhere else. Yes they cost money but guess what again, CCP is a business not a charity and a business that doesnt try to make money is a business that doesnt last very long. I honestly struggle to see whats in any way shady about pushing a product that function as a direct address to an issue your customers have raised. Finally I understood your analogy perfectly well, i just thought it was shite and being jaw droppingly condescending about it doesn't make me think its any less shite.
Yea theyre in it to make money but only reason they added thing like skill extractors is to compensate for all of the lost income from accounts being unsubbed because of sh*t changes like which will no doubt cause a lot more accounts to go unsubbed between now and November which will cause them to try and find other ways to make up that lost income otherwise will have to start laying people off and/or pull the plug on the game when they start losing to much money thanks to people with your mindset that people who don't pvp don't belong in EvE |

Lord Mudeki
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Posted - 2016.08.30 05:45:12 -
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Delt0r Garsk wrote:Tess Storm wrote: Why not make the game fun again, stop making everything difficult.
Wait you said fun again... as in afk mining? Fun really, is that what kids are calling it these days.
I don't afk mine never have I used 6 accounts to mine with but with these changes I'm letting 3 unsub as I wont be mining anymore not putting a rorq in a belt |

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Posted - 2016.08.30 05:59:09 -
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Delt0r Garsk wrote:Lord Mudeki wrote: I don't afk mine never have I used 6 accounts to mine with but with these changes I'm letting 3 unsub as I wont be mining anymore not putting a rorq in a belt
but that is the problem that most want fixed. This 100% safe rorq thing that you think you should have. It was never meant to be that way and CCP have been saying for years that this is *going* to change. And *lots* of people have been howling for this change for years. Calling off grid boosting cancer etc.... The mistake made was letting you have a 100% safe rorq in the first place so that you have unrealistic expectations.
Whatever Ill be laughing all the way to jita market when prices skyrocket and I'm selling my stockpiles for even more profit |

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Posted - 2016.09.10 19:08:28 -
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What I'd like to know is when the hell are these changes gonna go live on Singularity? Seems kinda stupid not to put them on the test server asap instead of waiting til literally right before it supposed to go live on Tranquility, so as to get feedback from players but also to make sure its working properly and to find the bugs, I mean here it is middle of September still nothing on Sing, new barge updates in just a couple days so really were kinda done with that so lets see the new stuff already on Sing |

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Posted - 2016.09.18 18:56:22 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:It's a direct nerf yes but people can't see the big picture. Overall this will help the game imo.
No it wont, all its going to do is cause a lot of people to unsub accounts, rorquals will either possibly be sold en masse there by dropping the price and/or not used anymore, as far as pvp goes I think its a good idea but for mining I don't think its a good idea at all or even well thought out pertaining to mining and the rorqual, to me this change is totally for pvp and not for mining, they are just throwing it in there so pvpers can have more easy targets. To be honest as Ive seen several posts saying the same thing and I agree with it, if this is supposed to be a pvp pew pew game only then get rid of everything else, if I wasn't supposed to do only industry related stuff then get rid of it all and make it so where you can only pvp, then we wont have to worry about so called "carebears" because pretty much 50% or more people in the game would leave/unsub their accounts and you would be left with nothing but pvpers but then again at that point the game would probably not be profitable anymore. |
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